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Saturday, April 25, 2009

Bob Brinker's Moneytalk: Excerpts, Summary and Commentary, April 25, 2009

Posted April 25, 2009. Bob Brinker hosted Moneytalk today.

Bob Brinker discussed the stock market action this past week.
He called it a "seesaw" week and said that it had ended close to where it started. He said the "wild ride" was caused by a "false story" that came out on Monday which caused a decline of almost 4% -- "carrying the S&P 500 Index down into the "low-800's on that day," but that buyers had come back in as the inaccurate story was straightened out.
Last week the Dow closed at 8131.33. This week the Dow closed at 8076.29, a loss of 0.7% for the week.

Last week the S&P 500 Index closed at 869.60. This week it closed at 866.23, losing 0.4% for the week.

Last week the Nasdaq closed at 1673.07. This week the Nasdaq closed at 1694.29, up 1.3% for the week.

Last week GLD closed at $85.33. This week GLD closed at $89.72, jumping for the week because of the news that China is building a stockpile of gold [LINK]

Bob Brinker never recommends buying gold, but according to Marketwatch, China's gold holdings have been surging: "China has boosted its gold reserves to 1,054 metric tons....The increase makes China the world's fifth-largest holder of gold, just ahead of Switzerland, and among the six nations plus the International Monetary Fund that have reserves of more than 1,000 metric tons......The comments are China's first public acknowledgement in more than five years that its gold reserves had increased."

Brinker said: "We had a stock market rout on Monday.....and it was based on an erroneous story that almost all of the 19 banks in the stress test were going to be declared insolvent. This story is false.......There is nothing to this story according to the United States Treasury. As a matter of fact, it's expected on May 4th, when the results of the stress test are announced......that we are going to see the need for some of these banks to raise additional capital.........Under the stress test guidelines, we're going to see a period of time set aside during which these banks are going to be able to find ways to raise capital. There are several ways to raise capital. You can sell non-core assets.....You can sell shares to investors......the TARP money....hundreds of billions of dollars have been put into these banks.....

......In my opinion a great disservice was done to stock market investors this past Monday who were in receipt of this false story -- confirmed by the Treasury as a false story that practically all of these top banks were going to be declared insolvent......This is the kind of a market that you are dealing with today.....False stories damage the credibility of the stock market....."


PANICKING OUT OF THE MARKET: Brinker said: "We are talking about a report coming out last Monday from an obscure source, but it was picked up by major sources and that certainly contributed to the problem. ......They ran with this story and caused the stock market panic on Monday. You hate to see that. And the reason that you hate to see that is, those people that were panicked out of the market on Monday with levels down into the low-800, they turn around and they see the market snap right back. It goes right back to where it was the prior Friday, and the losses are virtually completely recovered within a matter of four days trading -- Tuesday through Friday. What do you think they think about the credibility of Wall Street and the credibility of investing? This is the world we live in today. This is the reality of Wall Street today.....This is Moneytalk."

UPTICK RULE: Brinker said that the repeal of the uptick rule has damaged the credibility of the stock market. Brinker talked about this several times today and there were several callers who talked about the subject -- especially in the second hour. There is no change in Brinker's viewpoint. He thinks it should be reinstated, and he believes that it will be reinstated sometime this year.

POSSIBLE SWINE FLU PANDEMIC: There was a lot of discussion about this subject today. Basically, Brinker classified it as an "exogenous factor" that is outside the normal financial flow, but a factor that has to be closely monitored -- because it is "lethal."

Caller Jack from San Diego
made a good point when he said this: "......what troubles me, Bob, is the reports I'm hearing out of Mexico is, not only have they closed the schools in Mexico City, but they've canceled public events. And the CDC has come out and said they haven't seen this flu strain before. It's new to them, and it's too late to stop its spread. Now this flu strain contains elements of human flu, bird flu and three strains of swine flu -- North American, European and Asian. One has to wonder if this can even occur naturally. But the part that troubles me is that our government has yet to place any travel restrictions."

Bob Brinker replied:
"Frankly, if you look at the reports from the World Health Organization, you have to take it seriously.....You are correct, it is a new flu virus and potentially a major respiratory epidemic.......We have to watch it very, very closely and that includes travel plans."

The caller continued:
"......all the reports so far, appears that this is all human to human contact. In other words, the virus has mutated, which is worst case scenario as far as the pandemic...... The president of the United States was in Mexico City a week ago. And I think because of the odd nature of the strain, at this point, we should not the possibility that this could be a terrorist attack."

Brinker replied: "Well, I never rule that out....... but what I would do at this point is to monitor the pronouncements of the World Health Organization. They're usually on top of this sort of thing...... And one thing to watch is whether the WHO raises its pandemic flu alert to level four. Right now it's at level three, but if they raise it to level four, that would mean that sustained human to human transmission of a new virus has been detected.....If they go to level four, I will become more concerned than I am now." [Link to WHO]

* Sunday @ 11:30 PDT, Swine Flu Update: US declares public health emergency [LINK]

** Monday Swine Flu Update:
The WHO raised the alert level to Phase 4, meaning there is sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus causing outbreaks in at least one country [LINK].

*** Wednesday, April 29th, Swine Flu Update: The WHO raised pandemic flu alert level to phase 5 [LINK]

INFLATION:
Caller John asked Brinker if he thought the Fed would be able to control inflation brought on by the excessive spending. Brinker said that was "a great unknown" question with an "unknown answer."

ECONOMY: Brinker said that they are going to get the economy turned around "eventually."

FIXED-INCOME INVESTING:
A caller said he was concerned about inflation's effects on fixed-income investments and Ginnie Maes. Brinker told him that if he wanted a portfolio that completely protected him for NAV deterioration, he should buy I-bond (personal money), TIPS (tax-sheltered money) or laddered FDIC-insured CD's.

[About 52 minutes into first hour] Caller Steve
told Brinker that he was 55 years old and about five years from retirement. Steve said: "I've been in all cash until now and I'm considering taking that cash and going about 60% into the stock market and 40% into fixed income. Would you buy the market outright at its current levels or would you dollar-cost-average in?"

Brinker replied:
"Well our recommendation to our subscribers has been to be a buyer on weakness. We have regarded the market as a buy on weakness. That is our view and that's certainly a view that has not changed in recent weeks. We are a buyer on weakness. You had tremendous weakness on Monday. I mean it knocked the thing all the way down to the low-800's on a false news story. So that's the kind of opportunity that is presented. And yeah, I'd be a buyer on weakness. I don't have any problem with your asset allocation. I think that as you move into retirement down the road, you might go to a balanced approach. But if you are going to start out with objectives in the 60 to 40% range, equities over fixed income, I'm okay with that. I think there opportunities to make money in the stock market. This is a good time, I think, to be in the stock market. And I think that people that are in the stock market right now are going to be happy they are as we move forward. There's no question about it, the credibility of the stock market has been severely damaged in the marketplace by the high jinks resulting from the repeal of the uptick rule, the high jinks we've seen in terms of false news stories. But in that case, it presents an opportunity."

Honeybee EC: Brinker recommended "buying on weakness" with no number attached for the first time in the most recent issue of Marketimer. So for him to infer this has been ongoing advice is deception. Today, he gave the audience the impression that he is "happy" to be in the market, but didn't make any reference to the fact that his subscribers have been fully invested in this bear market if they followed his advice. They have lost huge amounts of money, so I'm sure they are happy to be recouping some of their losses.

He didn't mention that he has issued repeated much higher all-new-money-in "buy levels" and has called multiple bottoms that were promptly taken out. Anyone who took his advice back at the October 2007 highs would have bought into the stock market at mid-1400's, low-1300's, low-to-mid 1200's, and low-to-mid-800's. The irony is that after all of that, he missed the real bottom.

The last new-money buy-level he issued was in January in the low-to-mid 800's. He did away with that one as the market tanked to its all-time-low of 677 in March. Whereupon he said that he was looking for a new "bottoming process." That was just about 5 days before the market began its 25% + climb.

Oops, in the March Marketimer, he did not even recommend dollar-cost-averaging....

Brinker neglected to tell the audience that "buying on weakness" ONLY applies to new money. Marketimer, April 3, 2009, Bob Brinker said: "....we would view any short-term weakness that occurs in the S&P 500 Index as a buying opportunity for those looking to add to equity positions......All of our model portfolios remain fully invested...."

Brinker's failed market timing calls, chart courtesy of Kirk Lindstrom [LINK] Please click to enlarge:


Bob Brinker’s guest-speaker Saturday was Dr. Alan Blinder. Dr. Blinder is on the faculty of Princeton University and has served as vice-Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System.

Here is the [LINK] to the CDARS website that Dr Blinder talked about. It is a way to access full FDIC coverage on deposits up to $50million.

[Alan Blinder's interview is now available in the Saturday 3-4pm time slot.] You have a full seven days after broadcast to download your own FREE copies of Bob Brinker's Moneytalk programs. The programs are archived for at KGO810 radio [LINK]. Saturday's program is ready now and will be there until next Saturday at 1pm. To download the program to your MP3 player or flash drive, just right click the day and hours that you want and use "Save Link as." KGO Moneytalk Archives [Link]

Dixiegeezer recently visited Arlington Cemetery and took this beautiful picture:


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19 comments:

jeffchristie said...

Brinker said:

"I think there opportunities to make money in the stock market. This is a good time, I think, to be in the stock market. And I think that people that are in the stock market right now are going to be happy they are as we move forward. "

I seem to remember him saying something like this a year or so ago when the S&P 500 was in the 1400's. Since you keep a record of what he said I went back and found this.

"December 2007, Marketimer, Brinker said: “We continue to rate the market attractive for purchase on any weakness in the area of the mid-1400’s range of the S&P 500 Index. Any additional weakness below this range is regarded as a gift horse buying opportunity. We prefer a dollar-cost-average approach for new purchases when the S&P 500 Index is above the mid-1400’s range.”


January 6th 2008, Brinker said the stock market conditions were "favorable as we enter 2008” and he took a whack at the “bad news bears.” He repeated his prediction of new highs reaching into the “1600’s range.”

Anonymous said...

Hah! The Blinder leading the Blinker! Or was it the other way around? I didn't get a chance to listen.

Anonymous said...

So now Blinkey has just gotten around to talkng about CDSs? Well, nothing gets past Blinkey, does it?

Anonymous said...

"You know it is against my nature to be critical . . ."

Bob Brinker, on the air, 4/26/2009, 6:42pm est

Response: BWAHA HAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHA!!!!!!!

-east coast

Honeybee said...

Anonymous anonymous said: "Hah! The Blinder leading the Blinker!"LOL! It seemed pretty much equal to me.

I may get a chance to do a bit of a review of that interview.

Or if we get lucky, maybe David Korn will do a review and let me share it with you.

Anonymous said...

I may get a chance to do a bit of a review of that interview.OK, I look forward to that.

When it comes to market timing is anyone Blinder than Blinker? :)

Honeybee said...

Anonymous "two" said, "So now Blinkey has just gotten around to talkng about CDSs? Well, nothing gets past Blinkey, does it?"You got that right. And he has perfect 20-20 hindsight too. LOL!

Honeybee said...

East Coast said: "You know it is against my nature to be critical . .Bob Brinker, on the air, 4/26/2009, 6:42pm est

Response: BWAHA HAHAH AHAHAHAH AHAHAHA!!!!!!!"
One of these days, Brinker is going to get his tongue stuck over there in his cheek and all you will hear from his mike is "pflbfbubadubbubu...FHIT." 8~)

Quis said...

Hey Honeybee, about that Blinder/Blinker and CDS post, it's me quis. Too lazy to log in.

Did you see the latest from Dingbert? He sez, "The bottom line? Even if the train has left the station, there's still a good chance that it will return to pick up more passengers."

So does that mean the Spaceship Moneytalk will be picking up some more victims, too???

And maybe that train is on the bridge to nowhre?

Anyhow, you can read Dingbert and my comment here (down there in the middle of the page)

http://tinyurl.com/dmnwd4

Honeybee said...

Hi Quis,

I should have known that was you -- always with the great humor. 8~)

I looked at your Hulbert comment and gave you a big thumbs up.

I think I have one on there somewhere, but mine was pretty early on.

Quis said...

Thanks, Honeybee.

A while back I think you said you were going to archive some photos onto a flash drive.

I love flash drives. They are great but there is always the possiblility they can get corrupted or files getting accidentally deleted. (And an acquitance accidentally re-formatted his flash drive a while back! Yikes!)

Anyway, I recommend you copy your photos to flash drives BUT I also recommend you copy them to CDs or DVDs to be safe.

Honeybee said...

Hi Quis,

I was very surprised to read your warning about flash drives. I was resting comfortably in the feeling that this was probably the very safest way to save irreplaceable pictures.

I have had nothing but trouble with saving pictures to CDs. Actually, it's not the saving that gives me trouble, it's the retrieving/opening them.

Twice now, I have had CDs with precious pictures on them, and after buying a new computer, I can't open them.

I guess all I can do now is set up my old computer, open them and save them to a flash drive --- I hope that will work.

Any further advice?

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Bluce said...

Some thoughts on storage:

Any storage method can become corrupted, damaged, or otherwise inoperable. I read somewhere that CDs degrade over time (years), and some brands are worse than others.

For absolutely valuable stuff, I guess periodic rotation, double back-ups, or re-burning CDs would be in order.

Here's what I did on my business PC: because they are as cheap as any other storage medium now, ($75) I installed a 2nd hard drive. They are faster than other media, and you can ghost your entire hard drive onto it so if #1 crashes you lose NOTHING.

I unplug it during thunderstorms so it can't get zapped, and for really valuable stuff I also copy onto a flash drive.

I guess there are online storage places now, but I don't know what it costs, or what kind of guarantee they have for failure.

Honeybee said...

Hi Bluce,

Thanks for the storage tips. I was looking around on the internet and found this excerpt about flash drives. The "safe storage removal was news to me:

A note of caution when unplugging

When you've finished using your USB flash drive, it is generally recommended that you should first of all click on the 'Safely Remove Hardware' icon that appears in the System Tray in the bottom right of your computer's Task Bar before then unplugging the drive. This makes sure that no programs are continuing to access the drive, and in particular, it makes sure that no programs are in the middle of writing some data to the drive when you unplug it.

With delayed caching functions, you might think you've finished with the USB drive even though the computer still has some pending tasks. If you unplug the drive while the computer is in the middle of updating a file, you'll probably end up with a corrupted file, and perhaps you might end up with an entire corrupted flash drive (due to the index file also being open or not correctly updated).

Cost

These types of drives are available at computer stores, Costco and other major discounters, and - of course - online. Back in 2004, I bought mine at Costco for $50, and then discovered I could have bought it through Amazon for $49.

Update March 2009 : These days, USB drive prices are about $10 or less for 4GB, about $15 for 8GB, and $30 for 16 GB. 32 and 64 GB drives are also available. The best range and pricing continues to be Amazon, and this link takes you to their main menu page of Flash drive units.
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Honeybee said...

BTW: Bluce, Quis or anyone,

Do you know why sometimes a flash drive will refuse storage and tells me it is "full" when it is absolutely not full?

When I check under "properties," I can see that it is only fractionally full-- sometimes as little as 1/8 to 1/16%.

But the really puzzling thing is, if I delete something off of it, then it will accept more data.

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Bluce said...

Honey, regarding the capacity problem: I don't know, I've been using them for several years now but have never had that happen.

Here's an interesting note a nerd buddy of mine told me: he said at some point PCs won't have mechanical hard drives as we know them, they will all be solid state, like a flash drive.

You will carry your "hard drive" around in your pocket and can plug it into any public or private PC and will instantly have your entire PC right in front of you.

Quis said...

I'm not sure about why your flash drive refuses to accept more files when there's plenty of space available. I never had that happen to me.

As far as corruption goes I have always used the "safely remove hardware" icon on the task bar. I haven't had corruption problems for a few years but know of people who have (and they do use the safely remove hadware icon). These people use flash drives much more often than I do. I only use flash drives a few times a month.

I think the greater danger is accidently deleting files from a flash drive. I don't know of an easy way to make a flash drive read only (although it's not something I've had to do so I never spent much time looking into that) whereas you generally can only write once to a CD or DVD and then you don't have to worry about deleting files accidentally.

I'm not sure why you had a problem opening the files on the CDs you burned. What error message(s) did you get when you tried to open them? It sounds like you could open them on the computer you burned them on but not on your new computer.

Quis said...

Another thing is that there is the chance the flash drive could later become infected with a virus whereas that isn't going to happen on a CD or DVD.

Honeybee said...

Quis asked: "What error message(s) did you get when you tried to open them?"I don't get an error message, my computer just tells me the files are empty on the CD.

I think it must have something to do with changing to Vista.

I am going to have to set up my old computer and see if I can open them. 8(

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